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- From: anonymous@nowhere.org (Anonymous Posting)
- Subject: Method of repealing Prohibition
- Date: Sat, 12 Nov 1994 21:45:43 +0000
- Message-ID: <199411122146.QAA25128@bigdipper.umd.edu>
-
- politicians can't be expected to bring up an issue that the average
- brainwashed dope is opposed to. Next question: how do we influence
- the media? I'd expect that sending in several stat sheets a FAQs
- might get a few thinking, I'm investing time and money in spreading
- the word. The power of the press in an important force to harness.
-
- Tim Allen of Home Improvement says he will fight the WOD after his TV
- show goes off the air, he served three years in jail for selling
- cocaine. Does anyone know other media types who are strongly opposed to
- prohibition?
-
- Here's a piece from Dennis Miller's HBO show that aired live on
- Friday. It's a decent show, a rarity for the medium.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From "Dennis Miller Live" on HBO, Friday, Nov. 11, 1994, 10:00 pm
-
- [ After joking about recent DC Mayoral elect Marion Barry]
-
- "Maybe he deserves a second chance, I mean who did he really hurt
- besides himself? Maybe it's time that we as a nation start staying out
- of people's personal problems and vices. What are we doing spending
- billions of dollars trying to keep people's private lives in order?
- And I'm talking about legal age consenting adults here, not kids, we
- obviously have to take special precautions to protect kids. But what is
- this Orwellian hang-up of ours of sticking our nose into other
- grown-up's affairs? What concern is it of ours if some mindless stoner
- wants to spend his his life hooked up to a Turkish skull bong? Now,
- I'm not pro-drug, they obviously cause a lot of damage, but I am
- pro-logic and you're never going to stop the human need for release
- through altered consciousness. The government can take away all the
- drugs in the world and people will just spin around on their lawn until
- they fell down and saw God.
-
- "Now I don't want to get off on a rant here, but it seems to really
- enrage the vast cheese dog and beer quaffing nation out there when someone
- decides to waste his own life chasing down chemical euphoria and I'm not
- sure why. Our displeasure with someone hell-bent on self-ruination
- through drug use seems really disproportionate to its direct impact on
- us. And as a matter of fact, I believe we amplify that impact when we
- attempt to enforce unenforceable laws. It not only costs us billions of
- dollars, but it puts us in harms way as addicts are driven to crime as a
- means to an end. Why do we chase druggies down like villagers after
- Karlov? Let them legally have what they already have and defuse the
- bomb. You know, I think the hysteria about drugs is often times baseless.
- And this comes from me, a man who has never done cocaine in his life,
- although I did smoke dope upon occasion during my stint as a student at
- Oxford in the late 60s. And you know, the war on drugs is more often than
- not fruitless and patently hypocritical, be honest with yourselves now.
- What drugs are the most dangerous to the most Americans? Its a no
- brainer: cigarettes and alcohol. Those are the statistical champions by
- hundreds of thousands of deaths. And wouldn't you rather shoot a game
- of pool with a guy smoking a joint than a guy drinking whisky and beer?
- Someone smoking a joint doesn't all of the sudden rear back and stab his
- partner in the eye socket with a cue stick, ok? He's too busy laughing
- at the balls.
-
- "And you know as far as harder drugs go, if somebody wants to shoot
- up and die right in front of you, more power to him, you know? It's his
- call. And you know the herd always has a way of thinning itself out.
- We aren't stupid people here in America, no more than anyone else in
- the world, so why are we obsessing on habits that harm no one but the
- habitual, while we let real problems slip ever further out of reach. We
- seem to be willfully turning away from reality, and from logic might I
- add, to punish people, who in many instances are doing an extremely fine
- job of punishing themselves, thank you. And in some cases they're not
- even punishing themselves, but rather just following age old spawning
- instincts that are as woven as deeply into their brain as their need to
- watch Home Improvement.
-
- "Is their anything more fruitless than trying to legislate sexual
- behavior? You know according to the law, you can't even get a blow
- job in Georgia? No wonder Sherman hustled through there. And really if
- you stop to think about it, who is hurt by the time honored unavoidable
- trade of prostitution? Only the guys who pay extra to be hurt. There
- is no sane reason to cling to this archaic legal attempt to curtail an
- activity that will be around until the end of time. You know, you could
- come back to this planet ten thousand years from now and man could have
- evolved to the point where he doesn't even take in nutrition from a
- hole in head anymore, but I guarantee you that he'll still be cruising
- ninth avenue trying to get a knob-shine from somebody named Desiree.
-
- "What sort of perfect harried experiment society are we striving for
- folks? One where you will be forced by the puritanical mentality of
- your pin-headed Gladys Kravitz neighbors into a tightly constricted,
- over-regimented existence? A life safe from the temptations and rewards
- of the flesh? If that's your kink - go for it. But for the rest of
- us, let's save the money we're wasting trying to regulate other people's
- private lives. If an individual wants to smoke a joint, or shoot up, or
- munch blotter like tic-tacs and drop out, let them. All right? Let's
- put the billions we're wasting on a drug war, fought by fitness fanatics
- on steroids and three-martini senators rolling in pork, let's put it
- back in the educational system. Let's free the courts and jails of
- lonely men and broken women who feel the need to buy and sell sex.
- Let's let hookers and their johns have a safe building somewhere off the
- streets, inspected medically and taxed up the wazoo. Let's go on from
- there to tax liquor and cigarettes so that those industries can pay for
- safe one-lane drunk-proof highways and air purification systems. Most
- importantly, let's stop pretending that people are going to lead the
- lives that we tell them to lead. Let's stop pretending that a few
- simple prohibitions on substances and activities will yield up a nation
- of Beaver Cleavers: polite, clean, sexless, and ready to serve their
- fellow man, no questions asked. People are people. They're going to
- with their lives what they want to do, whether you like it or not.
- There is nothing you can do about them that won't break the bank,
- overcrowd the prisons, or corrode an already oxidized judicial system.
- People are perennially going to get fucked up and fucked, and we will
- continue to get fucked over if we don't concede the fact that there
- is absolutely fuck-all we can do about it.
-
- "Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."
-
-
-
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- Subject: Dennis Miller for legalization!! Other celebs?
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- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 05:25:31 +0000
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- politicians can't be expected to bring up an issue that the average
- brainwashed dope is opposed to. Next question: how do we influence
- the media? I'd expect that sending in several stat sheets a FAQs
- might get a few thinking, I'm investing time and money in spreading
- the word. The power of the press in an important force to harness.
-
- Tim Allen of Home Improvement says he will fight the WOD after his TV
- show goes off the air, he served three years in jail for selling
- cocaine. Does anyone know other media types who are strongly opposed to
- prohibition?
-
- Here's a piece from Dennis Miller's HBO show that aired live on
- Friday. It's a decent show, a rarity for the medium.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From "Dennis Miller Live" on HBO, Friday, Nov. 11, 1994, 10:00 pm
-
- [ After joking about recent DC Mayoral elect Marion Barry]
-
- "Maybe he deserves a second chance, I mean who did he really hurt
- besides himself? Maybe it's time that we as a nation start staying out
- of people's personal problems and vices. What are we doing spending
- billions of dollars trying to keep people's private lives in order?
- And I'm talking about legal age consenting adults here, not kids, we
- obviously have to take special precautions to protect kids. But what is
- this Orwellian hang-up of ours of sticking our nose into other
- grown-up's affairs? What concern is it of ours if some mindless stoner
- wants to spend his his life hooked up to a Turkish skull bong? Now,
- I'm not pro-drug, they obviously cause a lot of damage, but I am
- pro-logic and you're never going to stop the human need for release
- through altered consciousness. The government can take away all the
- drugs in the world and people will just spin around on their lawn until
- they fell down and saw God.
-
- "Now I don't want to get off on a rant here, but it seems to really
- enrage the vast cheese dog and beer quaffing nation out there when someone
- decides to waste his own life chasing down chemical euphoria and I'm not
- sure why. Our displeasure with someone hell-bent on self-ruination
- through drug use seems really disproportionate to its direct impact on
- us. And as a matter of fact, I believe we amplify that impact when we
- attempt to enforce unenforceable laws. It not only costs us billions of
- dollars, but it puts us in harms way as addicts are driven to crime as a
- means to an end. Why do we chase druggies down like villagers after
- Karlov? Let them legally have what they already have and defuse the
- bomb. You know, I think the hysteria about drugs is often times baseless.
- And this comes from me, a man who has never done cocaine in his life,
- although I did smoke dope upon occasion during my stint as a student at
- Oxford in the late 60s. And you know, the war on drugs is more often than
- not fruitless and patently hypocritical, be honest with yourselves now.
- What drugs are the most dangerous to the most Americans? Its a no
- brainer: cigarettes and alcohol. Those are the statistical champions by
- hundreds of thousands of deaths. And wouldn't you rather shoot a game
- of pool with a guy smoking a joint than a guy drinking whisky and beer?
- Someone smoking a joint doesn't all of the sudden rear back and stab his
- partner in the eye socket with a cue stick, ok? He's too busy laughing
- at the balls.
-
- "And you know as far as harder drugs go, if somebody wants to shoot
- up and die right in front of you, more power to him, you know? It's his
- call. And you know the herd always has a way of thinning itself out.
- We aren't stupid people here in America, no more than anyone else in
- the world, so why are we obsessing on habits that harm no one but the
- habitual, while we let real problems slip ever further out of reach. We
- seem to be willfully turning away from reality, and from logic might I
- add, to punish people, who in many instances are doing an extremely fine
- job of punishing themselves, thank you. And in some cases they're not
- even punishing themselves, but rather just following age old spawning
- instincts that are as woven as deeply into their brain as their need to
- watch Home Improvement.
-
- "Is their anything more fruitless than trying to legislate sexual
- behavior? You know according to the law, you can't even get a blow
- job in Georgia? No wonder Sherman hustled through there. And really if
- you stop to think about it, who is hurt by the time honored unavoidable
- trade of prostitution? Only the guys who pay extra to be hurt. There
- is no sane reason to cling to this archaic legal attempt to curtail an
- activity that will be around until the end of time. You know, you could
- come back to this planet ten thousand years from now and man could have
- evolved to the point where he doesn't even take in nutrition from a
- hole in head anymore, but I guarantee you that he'll still be cruising
- ninth avenue trying to get a knob-shine from somebody named Desiree.
-
- "What sort of perfect harried experiment society are we striving for
- folks? One where you will be forced by the puritanical mentality of
- your pin-headed Gladys Kravitz neighbors into a tightly constricted,
- over-regimented existence? A life safe from the temptations and rewards
- of the flesh? If that's your kink - go for it. But for the rest of
- us, let's save the money we're wasting trying to regulate other people's
- private lives. If an individual wants to smoke a joint, or shoot up, or
- munch blotter like tic-tacs and drop out, let them. All right? Let's
- put the billions we're wasting on a drug war, fought by fitness fanatics
- on steroids and three-martini senators rolling in pork, let's put it
- back in the educational system. Let's free the courts and jails of
- lonely men and broken women who feel the need to buy and sell sex.
- Let's let hookers and their johns have a safe building somewhere off the
- streets, inspected medically and taxed up the wazoo. Let's go on from
- there to tax liquor and cigarettes so that those industries can pay for
- safe one-lane drunk-proof highways and air purification systems. Most
- importantly, let's stop pretending that people are going to lead the
- lives that we tell them to lead. Let's stop pretending that a few
- simple prohibitions on substances and activities will yield up a nation
- of Beaver Cleavers: polite, clean, sexless, and ready to serve their
- fellow man, no questions asked. People are people. They're going to
- with their lives what they want to do, whether you like it or not.
- There is nothing you can do about them that won't break the bank,
- overcrowd the prisons, or corrode an already oxidized judicial system.
- People are perennially going to get fucked up and fucked, and we will
- continue to get fucked over if we don't concede the fact that there
- is absolutely fuck-all we can do about it.
-
- "Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."
-
-
-
-